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The author of "The Prince," Machiavelli gave advice to the kings of the 1500s & 1600s on how to rule. Today, in modern day politics his advice could be seen as cruel and evil, but back then he wrote about what worked. Do you think the ideas outlined by Machiavelli are evil? What ideas or concepts of his do you find to be particularly evil or fair?
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garrett L
5/2/2017 07:52:14 am
Yes I do think his teachings were Machiavellian because they were cruel. He would tell a lot of the rulers in the world his teachings. He also told kings while running a election pay people to vote for you thats not right.😈
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Macy O.
5/2/2017 07:57:47 am
I agree with you Garrett. It is not right to pay people to vote for you. People acually follow that book. That is crazy.
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Liz W.
5/2/2017 04:00:13 pm
I agree with you garret. It was evil because it was mostly about killing people.
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Miles L.
5/4/2017 07:38:22 am
I agree Garrett. Paying people to vote for you is bribery. That is illegal today. Also, I like the 😈
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Garrett L
5/4/2017 07:50:18 am
Thanks Miles L 👍😁
Macy O.
5/2/2017 07:54:36 am
I think that the book The Prince is evil because it says to kill a lot of people and rule how you want. It says be really nice when people are around and when you are trying to be king and then be mean because you have all the power and people have to listen to you. I believe you should always be nice and not just sometimes if other people are around. I think it is very evil and not fair.
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.Connor W.
5/2/2017 02:36:14 pm
I agree Macy. It told you to kill many people. It is cruel and unfair. No king should have followed these rules.
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Hailey J.
5/4/2017 07:38:15 am
I agree with you Macy. Kings should not have to kill to get people to like them more.
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Angie S.
5/4/2017 07:39:09 am
I agree with you, Macy. I agree that 'The Prince' is evil because a ruler should not just rule how they want, and they should not kill a lot of people.
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Katie K.
5/4/2017 07:40:56 am
I agree Macy. I was going to say that in my response but I felt a decent amount of people already have. I do not think it was fair that he said kill as many people as you like especially since he was giving advice on how to rule!
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Andrew S
5/4/2017 07:44:01 am
I kinda agree with you Macy. The thing is he was smart about how he said how to rule. The only reason he said to be nice when people are around is so people will like you. IT was cruel but smart.
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Garrett L
5/4/2017 07:48:18 am
I agree with you it was evil because he told kings to pay for votes he unfairly. he told alot of kings. 😈🤴
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Zack T
5/4/2017 07:48:42 am
I agree with you Macy because The Prince had a very dark mind. Also, the tortures he said were very harsh.
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.Connor W.
5/2/2017 02:28:17 pm
I think "The Prince" was evil. Although, since it was a period of time where cruelty was normal, it could have worked. It wouldn't make the people to happy though. It was all about killing people and doing good things only when evryone was looking.
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Kevin S.
5/2/2017 06:23:52 pm
I agree with you Connor W. it was evil and back then it could of worked but now HA HA please ( ͠° ͜ʖ ° )
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Amira U.
5/4/2017 07:51:57 am
I agree with you Connor W. because yes the things he did were evil but in that period of time it was pretty normal. But i bet if the people saw who the prince truly was and saw his good and bad side they wouldnt have liked him as much.
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Jacob N.
5/5/2017 01:13:49 pm
I agree with you Connor W. the book is very evil. He talks about alot of death.
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Liz W.
5/2/2017 03:58:56 pm
I think the Prince was evil because he said you can lie as long as you don't get caught. Also it was mostly about killing people. Finally that could have worked back them but not now because it is way to violent.
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Julia G.
5/4/2017 07:41:54 am
Liz W. I agree with you because you are right it's bad that you can lie as long as you don't get caught. Also I could not have worked back then either because it is so evil.
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maddy S.
5/7/2017 05:55:41 pm
I agree with you Liz because The prince was really evil because since he kept saying as long as you lie you will never get caught you should not do that. And you know some one is evil if there just saying stuff about its mostly about killing.
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Miles L.
5/4/2017 07:36:05 am
I think they were evil. they said to do anything to your ability to win, even hurt, torture, or kill. I believe that is true evil
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Hailey J.
5/4/2017 07:37:26 am
I think they are evil. It says in the book that if you have to kill, then you can kill. They may have been useful back then. But not today.
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Angie S.
5/4/2017 07:37:38 am
I believe that the idea that a ruler should lie is evil. I do not like this rule because lying is cruel and it is not good for a ruler to lie. I believe that "The Prince" is evil because it talks about how to be a feared and cruel leader.
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Delilah C
5/4/2017 07:41:30 am
I agree with you Angie because lying is evil. If I lie about something huge i would get in trouble but in "The Prince" they say its agood thing, but t me its not.
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cheyenne moser
5/4/2017 07:46:43 am
I agree with you Angie. That rule to lie is evil because lying is very evil. And it is not good for ruling ether.
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Katie K.
5/4/2017 07:38:02 am
I think his ideas were evil.A lot of the ideas/rules were sort of violent. And if we used the rule "Lie as long as you want, as long as you don't get caught." today, we wouldn't die, but we would still get in a lot of trouble! If we told our parents when they asked us, "Did you do our homework?" And we said yes even though we didn't and they found out a while later, I know I would be grounded!
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Abby P.
5/4/2017 07:49:53 am
I agree with you Katie. Most of his ideas were evil and should never be done. Who would make up these kinds of rules?!
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Delilah C
5/4/2017 07:38:03 am
I think "The Prince" is evil because he is basiclly saying that if someone doesn't agree with you, you should kill them. To me thats not letting people have their own opinion. Also he is telling the ruler to feed people lies. To only to good when people are looking and once in power to be stingy with money.
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Inez Ortiz
5/12/2017 07:28:37 am
I guess i can agree with your side of the story were he is evil for "The Prince".
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Elyse C.
5/14/2017 06:26:40 pm
I see your side of the story. But, back then it was seen as fair to kings to fight for power at all costs.
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cheyenne moser
5/4/2017 07:39:00 am
I think the rule "man is easly fooled, be a good liar" was unfair. This would be very evil today because one of the most importat things to be a ruler or president is honesty. If your people find out you are lying, they wont believe you any more and they might turn against you. Stay truthful.
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Princeza D.
5/4/2017 07:44:35 am
I agree with you Cheyenne because I think as a ruler, you should always tell the truth and not lie to you people.
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Julia G.
5/4/2017 07:39:50 am
I think that the book is evil. I think this because he is telling to kill people no matter what even if they don't listen. Also one of the bad things was you can lie as long as you don't get cought.
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Jacob N.
5/4/2017 07:40:07 am
I think that he was evil because his rules were very graphic and he was just evil.
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Its me again
5/4/2017 07:54:43 am
I know it is short. But also he had rules that said to kill people. He said that it is better to be feared than loved
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Savion L
5/4/2017 07:42:43 am
If it's evil or not, that is the question. It really just depends on the perspective of the person. Maybe a truly heartless person would think that his teachings are completely necessary. On the other side, some would think his actions would be diabolical. And others would be neutral about these tips. I would be neutral about these rule, some of these could be useful, like being feared instead of being loved. Or having others doing the dirty work.
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Princeza D.
5/4/2017 07:43:44 am
I think that a lot of his advice was very cruel. There was a lot of killing that he said to do. It talks about Being a good liar and to fool people. I thought that was very evil.
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5/4/2017 07:46:35 am
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Zack T
5/4/2017 07:46:44 am
I think Machiavelli means evil because his crazy imagination about hell. Like how Satan chomps you and people getting tortured. Mostly I think Machiavelli has a very dank mind.
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Abby P.
5/4/2017 07:47:36 am
I think that the "Machiavellian" ways were bad and good because if you are strict in the beginning and then ease out at the end, the people won't take advantage of you. They are bad because it wants you to be super violent and cruel. This I know is not right.
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Andrew S
5/4/2017 07:47:52 am
I think this book was cruel but smart. This book was smart because he said you only have to be nice when people are around so you look good and people will like you. But that could be also looked at as cruel. It also said that its better to have people fear you which could be good because no one will mess with you, but that could also result in a cruel way and people not liking you. So I think this book is cruel but smart.
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Amira U.
5/4/2017 07:48:25 am
I think it was evil and not evil. I think it was evil because because he said that you could do all these bad thing and say it was ok as long as you don´t get caught. But i don´t think it was that bad because thats just how things were back then. Its wasnt as bad to kill someone as it is now.
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Tommy T.
5/4/2017 08:01:07 am
I completely agree. You need a well balanced relationship with your people. You can't be a really really mean leader, but at the same time you can't be a really soft one.
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Josie J.
5/8/2017 04:32:42 am
I agree with you, Amira. Times were different back then, so Machiavelli's words were not as awful as someone might think. I also agree that the ideas are still bad, just not as bad as they would be today.
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Kevin S.
5/4/2017 07:56:42 am
I think it was evil because he was making brutal laws. The laws were also unfair and cruel. Plus it was saying to do bad things and it would be ok.
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Danny P.
5/7/2017 06:15:46 pm
I agree with you Kevin, but he didn't make laws' he made statements saying how kings should rule. It was brutal, but kings didn't have to live by it.
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Kim G
5/4/2017 07:59:17 am
I think that today some of the advise would be considered cruel. But in the 1500-1600 I am pretty sure that people behave differently and believed different things and some might not have been so bad.I don't agree with all of his advice but some might have worked during his time
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Janna L.
5/4/2017 07:15:36 pm
I agree with you Kim, but some people act differently then other people, so the people who were always good didn't have to worry about being punished. But in the other hand, people who tink this was a bad idea back then, might have gone against the king, and the king would have to execute them, which is also known as murder.
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Tommy T.
5/4/2017 08:00:15 am
I think his teachings were evil yet not evil at the same time. I think you need your people to like you, but you need to be a strict leader at the same time. You need a good balance.
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Bella g
5/7/2017 01:30:24 pm
I agree. His ideas might seem vilonet but it worked.
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Janna L.
5/4/2017 07:10:19 pm
I think hey are evil because it would not be fair to the people who he is ruling, also it would make all people hate him making him the worst king or ruler ever. It also doesn't make sense on how it is better to be feared then loved, because then people would also think that the would kill the innocent, then run away, leading to less and less people to rule.
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Maddy S.
5/7/2017 06:01:09 pm
I think the prince was evil because he kept making all of these helpful suggestions that were not actually helpful they were just really cruel. He made suggestions like you can lie as long as you don't get caught, and everything is mostly about killing so if you have to kill, kill. So all of his suggestions were cruel and basically ruined many lives.
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Danny P.
5/7/2017 06:10:48 pm
I think all of Machiavelli's actions were all evil, but some were just horrible.One that I thought was really bad was if you want to take the throne don't just kill the king, kill the whole family so they won't argue. Also kill everyone who remembers to be free so they can't tell others and have them hate you.
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Josie J.
5/8/2017 04:28:25 am
I think that the ideas outlined by Machiavelli were not evil, but were not fair, either. I don't think it was fair that Machiavelli said kings could do whatever they want, like lie if they don't get caught or kill. But times were different back then, so although I don't think the ideas by Machiavelli were fair, they are not entirely evil, either.
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Inez Ortiz
5/12/2017 07:27:10 am
I think the ideas were not evil. But they were really great ideas, so you were get caught for killing they won't care.
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Elyse C.
5/14/2017 06:21:34 pm
I think that "The Prince" was fair, because back then the king would always inherit power. I also think, kings should fight for power. Plus, if you inherit power you are a kinda wimp because you always get your way and not have to work for any thing. So, you become a weak leader thinking that everything will be handed to you, like you will win a war by doing nothing when you need to work hard to win.
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