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During the Middle Ages, we see a conflict begin to arise between empires and the church. A specific struggle took place between Charlemagne and Pope Leo III. Who do you believe should rule the people of Europe a King or the Pope? Why?
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Marie H.
3/13/2017 04:08:43 pm
I believe the king should rule the people of Europe. I believe this because the pope probably won't know as much about ruling and taking care of the people as a king would. The pope also might not know how to deal with crowds of angry people mad about laws or whatever, since no one argues with them. He might not know how to make fair laws for the people, like not only the poor have to pay taxes, and you only get paid 5 cents each day. This is why I think a king should rule Europe instead of a pope.
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Jamie D.
3/14/2017 07:36:47 am
I agree! The pope would probably care more about God than the people of the village. The king would also be more harsh/fierce with punishments.
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Ryan R
3/16/2017 07:52:33 am
I agree with you Marie. If the king gave power to the pope, then the king wouldn't be able to do anything besides repeat the exact same thing the pope says for him to say.
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Lidia K.
3/16/2017 01:13:44 pm
I agree! The king should be the one to rule the people of Europe. I think that the king would have more experience in solving problems from people under his rule. The Pope should stick to his job, listening to what God has to say from the Bible. What would the king do if the pope were to rule?
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Callie K.
3/16/2017 03:02:46 pm
I agree with Marie. The king has a royal throne. The Pope is a religious leader, not in charge of the other people, or in my mind, shouldn't be. There should be more strict laws, saying who's in charge of making what decision, and that it can't be changed.
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Wilson M.
3/19/2017 05:40:08 pm
I agree with you Marie because during that time the Church was a little bit corrupt. So the Pope could make the economy bad.
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Brendan O
3/19/2017 07:30:37 pm
I agree with you. The pope should focus on his job instead of ruling people.
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Jamie D.
3/14/2017 07:35:30 am
I believe that the king should rule because he would know a lot more about ruling people. Yes, the pope will still know how to rule, but they will let God take care of some things and not take care of it themselves. The king would be more fierce/harsh with punishments, whereas the pope would let God decide their punishment. The king will also care more about the people than God and the pope would be the opposite.
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Catherine S
3/17/2017 03:35:03 pm
I agree with Jamie. I agree because what she said would be true. The Pope would worry and care way more about God's happiness than what really needs to be done for all of Europe. Ruling takes someone who is ready to make hard calls for the benefits of all of Europe. In my opinion the Pope would not do this. The Pope would probably also care less for the non- Christians in Europe because they were a different religion than he was. Or the Pope would totally force everyone in Europe to convert to Christian. So choosing the Pope would kind of be leaving out those people in Europe that were not Christian and had their own beliefs of religion. The Pope would also not have the experience in politics that the king would have. I just do not think that the Pope would be the write man for the job because of what it really takes to be a ruler or a king. This is why I agree with Jamie.
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Ryan R
3/16/2017 07:51:23 am
I think that the king should rule the people of Europe. The king is supposed to be the person that people look up to. When the pope takes charge, the king loses all of his power. The power that he needs to keep his kingdom conquering.
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Kevin R.
3/16/2017 01:48:46 pm
I agree but the another reason is because the pope might have less experience ruling a kingdom which can lead to a poor economy
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Kevin R.
3/16/2017 01:47:28 pm
I believe the king should rule because a Pope is the leader of the church and not the leader of a kingdom also kings have more experience with ruling over lands also a pope most likely doesn't have the experience to take on angry crowds of people.
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Nkayvian E.
3/17/2017 07:26:36 pm
I agree with Kevin. I agree with him because a pope does not deserve power over everybody.
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Callie K.
3/16/2017 03:47:50 pm
I think that the King should be in charge. I understand that the Pope is in charge in some things, but the king is, or should be the one who makes most decisions. I think that there should be a set of rules, that can't be changed. Such as, the king can make certain decisions, and the pope can make certain decisons, so that it does not get put of control, out of hand, also so it can be fair.
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Miah V
3/16/2017 04:43:14 pm
I agree with Callie the king should be in charge. There should be a set of rules that cant be changed. Like you said, there should be rules so nothing goes out of hand and can be fair.
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Brisy F.
3/19/2017 10:39:41 am
I agree with Callie. Some decisions can't be made by the King, or the other way round, some decisions also can't be made by the pope. So I also think it's fair that some decisions can be made by king/pope.
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Marie H.
3/19/2017 06:55:38 pm
Agree with you, Callie, because I think the king should be in charge. The pope should be in charge of religious things, but not political things, and the king should be in charge of political things, not religious things. Also, the pope should only be in charge of church.
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Miah V
3/16/2017 04:36:09 pm
i think that the king should rule the people of Europe. I think the king should be in charge because the king makes certain decisions. A lot of people think the king would have the power but its the pope. The pope is in charge of the church so the king should be in charge of people in Europe.
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Mr. Kaciuba
3/16/2017 07:33:57 pm
Kings are historically selfish, usually looking out for their own needs. Maybe the shift in power might have actually been good for the people in Europe. Now I do not think Pope Leo was the right man for the job, he was just as greedy as any other king. But maybe a better religious figure could have arose. I mean the majority of people in Europe were Christian so maybe he could have united them all and stopped war. Probably not :-( but one is allowed to be optimistic...
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Angela C.
3/19/2017 08:48:35 am
I agree because maybe we are only seeing the side of King Charlamagne, and only seeing Pope Leo III as a bad guy. Maybe he could have been a good leader, and as you said maybe a different figure like Pope Adrien could have been a good leader.
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Catherine S
3/17/2017 03:24:01 pm
I think that the King should rule the people of Europe. I think this mainly because not every one in Europe was Christian. Sure the majority of Europe was Christian but not everyone, and that would kind of force Europeans to be Christian. Sure the kings in history always have a bad side and sometimes they have more bad then good. But, those bad kings also had their affect on Europe. Some of the affects that they did on Europe were not that good but they made Europe what it is now. Pope's I do not think would be good rulers. I think this because they normally say that you should not kill people or go into war. This would be a problem because it might seem bad but wars and conflicts are fought for peace. Also kings sometimes need to be there to lead their men in to battle. Having an important leader there would supposedly give their men courage and win the battle, leaders in the army today still see importance of being with their men in the heat of battle. This would be a problem with the Pope being the leader of Europe because being all about peace and now wars he would probably not give his men the courage they need. Also if the Pope stops wars then any enemy force could easily come in and take over Europe. This is why I think that the King should be the main power of Europe.
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Nkayvian E.
3/17/2017 07:24:36 pm
I thinnk the king should rule over people because that is what kings are supposed to do. everybody has to listen to the king because he is in charge.
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Angela C.
3/19/2017 09:02:46 am
I believe kings should rule because a king shows natural leadership. I'm not saying that Popes don't, but kings were chosen to be king. And I saw what Catherine said, not all citizens are christian but popes are.
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Brisy F.
3/19/2017 10:36:47 am
I think king's should rule kingdoms. Pope's are religious leaders. They wouldn't know how to care for people, or what's happening in the economy. Take President Trump and Pope Francis. Pope Francis is the pope of the Roman Catholic Church. Trump is the president or the USA. If Donald and Pope Francis swap places, imagine in what world we would be living in right now. I imagine most of the people would be catholic and letting God choose their choices. Which many people do today. Imagine if Donald was Pope. * hides under bed * I think kings should run kingdoms, also, isn't kingdoms named after kings?
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Austin B.
3/19/2017 01:10:07 pm
I agree with you brisy because although he is the pope he isn't a king. Kings have been known to rule not popes. Popes are religious leaders not the leaders of a village/kingdom.
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Lidia K.
3/19/2017 12:46:41 pm
I think that kings are supposed to rule the people of Europe. I think that the kings were leaders and would care more about the needs of the people then God's will like the pope. The pope can just say it is God's will to do something. The king can take guidance or advice from the pope, but the king should be the one who should rule.
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Gianna S
3/19/2017 01:14:04 pm
I agree with Lidia because the pope might crown the king the emperor of the holy roman empire and they would think that the pope has the power to do more things. The king will take his time to go through and process what he will say and the pope will just say it is God's will to do it
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Austin B.
3/19/2017 01:07:48 pm
I think that the king should have the power because he is a king after all. If the pope had more power than the king or even all the power then why would there even be a king to rule if the pope has all the choices and power to make decisions. The king would be useless without his power and at most would be more of an elder guard to the pope.
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Gianna S
3/19/2017 01:08:34 pm
I think the king should rule the people of Europe. I think that because kings could know a lot more about ruling people than popes. Also, popes are in charge of other things, the king has more responsibilities than a pope, and they can have a bigger impact on the people in Europe
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Wilson M.
3/19/2017 05:42:41 pm
I think a King should rule because Charlemagne seemed like a pretty good guy. He didn't seem corrupt in anyway since he usually helped the people. Because Popes should focus more on religion more than power over everything is sight.
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Xavier L.
3/19/2017 06:46:22 pm
I agree Wilson, Charlemagne did not corrupt or do anything bad to the people at all. While pope Leo III tried to take advantage of the people.
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Xavier L.
3/19/2017 06:42:23 pm
I think that the king should rule, sure they can only care about themselves, but would you rather let a person with no experience do the ruling? The pope would have no experience with ruling, and their with them being the pope, ex. Leo III could take advantage of that.
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Brendan O.
3/19/2017 07:35:41 pm
I think the king should rule the empire. The pope needs to focus on his job. Not only that but the pope also would probably not be listened to by any non Christian citizens of the empire. Even if the empire was dominately Christian there were still people who weren't. If you have a king instead of a pope however, more people would listen because they can relate to this king more even if they are a different religion than the king.
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Mary P.
3/19/2017 08:37:50 pm
I think a pope should rule because, as Marie H. said above that no one argues with the pope. This also means that a pope would not have to worry about people knocking on his door with swords and torches. Which people not arguing with the pope means that the people will start to solve problems on their own. Also, a pope would care more about the needs of others rather than being selfish and self absorbed like other kings that have ruled. Which leads me to my final statement, a pope would be a better ruler because there would be a lot less violence in the punishments of crimes, which would lead to more people. And that means that there could be more food production, because there is more people, leading to a better economy.
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