I think that the Republic would have still ended because someone else would have been emperor. Someone from the triumvirate would have also became emperor but one person died and the other didn't want to be part of the triumvirate. Augustus definitely changed things in Rome. These changes benefit Rome. I think that no matter what the Republic would have ended because eventually someone would have had to take power.
I agree with you Dhwani because Aguatus was a great emporer and he did some over whelming things to benefit Rome so if Rome didn't have Agustus Rome probably would have ended sooner. As I look back to the Emporer slide we did in class, the republic would have ended a lot sooner.
Yes, I agree with Peter. This is because if we look at how many emperors Rome had we would realize how many people wanted power. If Augustus hadn't became emperor then someone else would have, even if it was years later. However, it also depends on what kind of emperor Rome had. If the citizens of Rome thought that the emperor would become like the dictator, Tarquinius Superbus, they would probably overthrow that emperor. I also think that since Augustus was a good emperor the people of Rome weren't as worried to have a sole ruler. Augustus did make changes but even if he hadn't been around, I think that the Republic would still have ended.
I agree Dhwani over time someone would be named Emperor of Rome. The Empire would still start over time someone because would be very powerful and be named Emperor of Rome like Augustus. Or someone would at least attack Rome and they would panic and get someone to lead and then if they won the war then they would name them Emperor.
I agree with Dhawani because the republic still would have ended because I am sure a power hunger person would name themself emperor/dictator
I agree with you Dhwani because the other 2 members of the triumvirate both wanted more power so someone would have taken over eventually.
I think that the Republic would have ended because when Marc Antony went to conquer Egypt and Marry Cleo Patra Octavian would not have been mad. So that would mean that Marc Antony would be the sole ruler alongside Cleo. Cleo would also probably kill Marc then control Egypt and Rome.
I do agree with you Peter, because Mark Antony was very powerful at the time and definitely could have been emperor. On the other hand though, Mark Antony still did do some bad stuff like killing the one girl (who's name I do not recall) on the footsteps of the palace. So wouldn't he still be killed just by another person. So I still stick by my idea that it would be a regular Roman Republic if Augustus did not exist.
I disagree with you Jack. One man cannot change history. Just because Augustus didn't rule Rome doesn't mean that Rome would not of fallen. Rome probably would of fallen sooner if Augustus did not rule Rome because he brought 40 YEARS OF PEACE. During that time Rome evolved to one of it's strongest points in history. That is why I disagree with statement about why without Augustus Rome would of been the same.
I think that if Octavian did not become emperor, nobody would have. Since he was the first emperor I think that if he was not the emperor, nobody would have because the idea of an emperor would not have been around. So I think nobody would be emperor. But that is just my opinion
I have to disagree with Jackie because even though Augustus wasn't around someone like Marcus Aurelius would have taken over. We still have to remember that Augustus wasn't the only good emperor. There were many emperors after Augustus who were good.
I agree with Dhwani because eventually someone would create the idea of an emperor and then the empire would be formed.
I think that it would take a lot more time for an emperor to form. For example Octavian was the first emperor so it would take a while for other people to want full power. I think it would have taken at the least 50 years.
I would agree with Dhawani to disagree with Jack because someone would take full power eventually. like think of all of the other emperors don't you think won of them would have taken power.
I think Rome would be terrible. There would be no other leader to set a good example like Octavion did. Secondly Rome would have had more bad emperors like Nero. Thirdly Rome would not have the gold coins nor Pax Romana because there will never be peace when people are being killed. Finally Rome would have fell from a average or strong country to a weak country.
I think Rome would not fall because Yes I do think Augustus and Octavian are great powerful leaders though its not like it would change much because they can easily get a ruler probably.so I think the Rome would just be strong but normal so things wouldn't not just fall though if there are more bad leaders maybe.
I agree with Cade because someone would take over soon or later and maybe not so powerful as Octavian or Augustus but Rome is strong they can probably keep it together
I think the republic still would have ended because someone was bound to come and demand power so even if Augustus was never born I think the republic still would have ended. If Augustus was alive just not emperor he would still do lots of good deeds because he seems like a good Roman but he just would not have the power to change the way things where for good.
You bring up an interesting point, I never thought of the idea that Octavian would still be around in Rome. And what you said about what he would do is spot on, he doesn't need power to do anything good.
I agree with Cloie because Octavion would of eventually died. Octavion whether it was from natural causes or assasination.
I think the Empire would start anyway because the people of Rome would be attacked once again like The Punic Wars and Rome would panic. So the people would get someone to rule through the war and if the person or ruler is good then the Senate will make them Emperor. Now if that doesn't happen then over time someone would anyway by force or by being good at combat.
I think the roman republic would of ended . Because they wouldn't have a strong leader like Octavian and Augustus.
I agree Imen because maybe if the Romans cant find anyone. So, they don't have a strong and powerful leader/emperor. so, the republic would fall.
I agree with Imen because Augustus was a strong emperor and gave Rome time to become strong he helped the Empire stay up and not fall down. And if someone like Nero was the first emperor the Empire would be gone very soon because he started The Great Fire of Rome and burned down most of Rome.
I agree with imen because if they did not have a strong leader like augustus they wouldn't be wise.
I think that the republic still would have ended because someone else would have steped up and took the emperor spot.
I think the republic would have ended. I thing this because Augustus/Octavian is a powerful emperor. But, someone maybe not so powerful, but powerful, wants to make thing good for the people of Rome so, that person would have ended the republic.
I think that is Augustus never became emperor Rome would of fallen a lot sooner. I believe this because during Augustus' 40 plus years of ruling he gave Rome a time of peace. During this Time Rome had time to become stronger ( which did actually happen). Without Augustus becoming Emperor Rome would not of been that strong and probably annihilated a lot earlier in time.
I think that the Republic would end. If the Romans didn't have a powerful emperor like Octavian/Augustus then the Roman Empire would have been gone before anyone else got to rule. This is because Augustus have been emperor long enough to give all Romans peace and time to grow stronger. So without Augustus Rome wouldn't be strong enough to keep the Empire up.
I think the republic still would have ended because Marc Antony or someone else would have eventually taken over after Caesar. Someone would have taken over because lots of people might have wanted to take over and have all the power. Also, after Caesar's murder there was total chaos, and it would have been fairly easy to take over.
I think the Roman republic would fall because another person that the people liked would become emperor. The Senators would do the same to that person as they did to Julies Cesar, killing that person, there for ending the Roman republic.
I agree with many of you students! It was only a matter of time before the Roman Republic fell. More and more generals were entering politics & declaring war with politicians. If Octavian didn't march his army to the senate someone else would have sooner or later. At least when Octavian did, he was strong and well liked so the senate supported him which allowed Rome to flourish.
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